I dont use chat lines at all actually. Nothing phony or premeditated. Nothing to mislead or misconstrue. Being one to enjoy being complimentary also at times for many seems to come across as a line...but its not...its being genuine and sincere...complimentary. Something that these days and times seem to have forgot
Yes, I think getting to meet and know someone first is a great idea. For some, the spontaneity of a meet and sex is an incredible turn on too so its really what it is your want and desires are.
As for the no show, be it this site or the others, there are many members who at the end of the day are just members...they are never going to meet up with anyone. Problem is that they pretend to be something they are not and make arrangements to meet knowing full well they wont. Then as you say sadly you waste your time (and often money) going to the determined place to meet...it sucks...its rude...it shouldnt be.
Havent been to the club but the web site chat room is so clicky its beyond belief...I think for a few select folks its their private chat line
I hear what you are saying...folks can be very cliquey indeed. I have personally never been to Samanthas so I cannot comment on it directly. I will say though that the M4 club in Toronto have dedicated theme days one of which is just for newbies to the lifestyle and or to their club. Its a chance to get out and meet existing long term members as well as new. Good luck on any of your choices.
Jsc has yet another excellent point made...sad to say but none the less true...folks that engage others in the hope of contravening their laid out profile mandates. Guys...nay, everyone...need to be totally respectful of what others put in their profile and if they have a problem with any of it then just move on. Especially when it deals with how one or the other or both are going to play. Those are things that the perspective couple has already discussed and agreed upon as what they are comfortable with. Trying to change that is just ignorant.
I think "different" makes a valid point...a lot of men have great concerns about loosing their wives to the single male. While I recognize this as a concern, it also begs the question of how well things are communicated both between the couple themselves and to the ones being brought into the play times. I think if the relationship is secure enough and there is a lot of good solid up front communication, there is no need for fear of anyone going anywhere...just fun.
I think there is also more fmf interest than mfm and what that may or may not have to do with it is debatable too...a lot of guys quiver at the thought of even being in the same room with another man let alone the closeness of intimate behaviours
And as mentioned already, at the end of the day it is after all a choice...made by the ones inviting others to their lives.
Good point and one that is asked often.
I think maybe its because guys have a thing about being close up with another male while females are not so hung up about it. You are quite correct though, the bulk of profiles specify couples or single women. Maybe too the human condition dictates that most sexual deviations tend to be with fmf rather than mfm. Dont really know. Just opinions. But it is a fact
Just a note to save you perhaps a lot of searching.
If you want a site that is adults only, you probably wont find one in Canada...they all advertize family and kids. If you want adult only you'll be heading south for sure.
You have a good point I think.
I have found over the years that regardless of what site you use, there are many that use the site as their personal chat venue to their specific friends and / or use the site for perpetual chat...never intending to ever hook up. Hand in hand with that is that many pretend to be swingers but in reality never have or never will.
Goes with the territory I guess. But on the up side, I think many do also use the site properly and manage successfully.
As far as the actual hook up goes, I think the number one rule should be absolutely not unless both are 110% ready, willing and able...zero second thoughts...zero misgivings of any sort
I think that being together is a good idea too...if the swing is going to be with mere random hook ups...but I also think that if its done with some exclusivity then allowing date nights with one on one can be a very hot and welcomed thing as well. Being exclusive should alleviate some of the fears.
I think the most important rule is that engaging others for fun sexually orientated get togethers is not about relationship busting its about relationship enhancing. It takes a lot and a very strongly bonded relationship to allow others sexually into the mix so making sure that nothing is going to happen to change that has to be job one in my book. If not for this...and this alone...all the nay sayers out there would be jumping into it...they all fantasize but lack the stability to go for it Just an opinion
You sure are right about that...just view the profiles...not many looking for guys on their own
